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Mar 8, 2019

Transcript of Doorstop – Balmain – Friday, 8 March 2019

Subjects; Shore power for White Bay Cruise Terminal, NSW Election, Stadiums, Malcolm Turnbull. 

ELLY HOWSE, LABOR CANDIDATE FOR BALMAIN: Good morning. I’m Elly Howse, Labor’s candidate for Balmain in the State Election and I want to welcome everyone today to White Bay in Balmain. Today we have an excellent announcement for the people of Balmain. Today Labor is announcing that we will be funding shore power in the White Bay cruise ship terminal. I want to thank Michael Daley, the Opposition Leader, and Penny Sharpe, Deputy Opposition Leader, for this announcement as well as Anthony Albanese, the Federal Labor Member for Grayndler and Shadow Minister for Infrastructure. I also do want to thank hundreds of local residents who have been speaking to me for months and months and we have been fighting on this issue. Local residents have had to shut their windows every time a cruise ship is in and docked. We’ve had local schools like Balmain Public School and Father John Therry where students have to shut their windows in the classrooms and they can’t go out into the playground because of the fumes and the noise from the cruise ships when they’re docked.

Today’s announcement is a game changer for the cruise ship industry and for this area in Balmain. For six years since the facility opened under the Liberal Government residents have been talking and writing and emailing the Government asking for action on this issue but they have been ignored by the current Government. Today that changes. Today Labor is the one who is listening to our local residents. Today Labor is announcing that we will deliver shore power. It is only a Labor Government that is going to be able to deliver this for the residents in Balmain and I thank Labor for this really important commitment. It shows we are really committed to improving air pollution and air quality in this area and I think it’s something that local residents will be ecstatic to hear about.

I’ll now introduce Anthony to say a few words.

ANTHONY ALBANESE, SHADOW MINISTER FOR TOURISM: Thanks very much Elly and it’s great to be here with someone who can actually stand up for the residents of Balmain and more importantly actually deliver real solutions to the issues which are here. And to deliver it through a Labor Government, which would be led by Michael Daley and Penny Sharpe. I want to thank Michael in particular for listening to the concerns of the electorate that I represent and the one that Elly seeks to represent after March 23.

I also make this announcement as the Shadow Tourism Minister because cruise ships are a vital part of our economy. They bring in jobs and economic activity. But with that needs to be a social license to operate. And that social license has got to be based upon sustainability and environmental best practice. Environmental best practice is ship to shore power and that’s what this announcement will deliver. And indeed I’ve spoken to the industry including Ann Sherry from Carnival who will work with us to deliver this because she knows how important this issue has been over recent times.

The fact is that the Berejiklian Government, just like the various incarnations of Abbott, Turnbull and Morrison Governments, have ignored this issue. Cruise shipping is vital not just to Sydney and New South Wales but to the national economy. And people who come to Australia to participate in cruises from overseas want to go to Sydney. And Sydney needs somewhere for these cruise ships to be parked. Right here at White Bay, it is not acceptable that you have fumes spewing out at the same height that residents are here in this park and, more importantly, just up the road at Father John Therry and Balmain Public School, where I’ve had students come to me in the electorate office and talk about the illnesses, produced doctors’ certificates, saying their health has been impacted by this.

Well Labor Governments don’t just sit back and watch, we take action. And a Daley Labor Government, along with a Shorten Labor Government will fund this capital infrastructure and recuperate it over time with an increase in charges for ships, which are berthed here in Sydney. It’s a practical response and stands in stark contrast to the hand ringing and non-action of the sitting State Member Jamie Parker representing the Greens Political Party who can complain but can’t actually deliver anything, like he hasn’t delivered anything of practical input with regard to the impact of Westconnex on this electorate or the impact of cruise ships. What this electorate needs is a Labor Member and Elly Howse will actually be able to deliver for this electorate.

MICHAEL DALEY, NSW LABOR OPPOSITION LEADER: Thank you Anthony, not only for the funding but for the commitment that you’ve given to this facility for a long time. We’re here really today because Elly Howse is a very determined person. She has driven me mad about this since she has become the candidate. I can’t tell you how many meetings I’ve had with her. She just keeps saying: ‘Ship to shore power Michael, ship to shore, don’t forget, don’t forget. It’s vital for the people of White Bay and this area’. And it is. It’s just unacceptable that when a ship comes in that children have to flee the playground, go into the classroom and shut the windows and shut the doors. It’s unacceptable that people who are living in this beautiful part of Sydney have to shut their doors and windows whenever there is a ship in.

We want these ships here. We want what the cruise ship industry brings to Sydney. But we also understand that it has to be fair. It has to be fair and sustainable. So with this announcement today it just means that the people who live in this area don’t have to breathe in fumes. They don’t have to worry about pollution confronting them on a daily basis and it’s taken long enough. We’ve given the government eight long years to do this. We’ve given the Berejiklian Government eight long years to do something about it. They’re not interested in doing it and as Anthony said, what we want to do if we form Government in 15 days is to reset the discussion about the environment and climate change all over New South Wales. This is emblematic of what we want to do: make sure that there are places for industry on a long term and sustainable basis. This is a terrific outcome for the people of White Bay, for the seat of Balmain. It sends a clear signal to them; they have a choice on election day. If they want to continue to have a Greens Member in Balmain that can’t deliver, that’s fine. If they want ship to shore power, if they want a material difference to their lives, then vote for Elly Howse and for change.

JOURNALIST: Mr Daley, how much of an election sweetener do you think this will be for the residents of Balmain in bringing them back to Labor?

DALEY: Elly’s been raising this with me, but I’ve been talking to people in this area for many, many years about this in my capacity as Shadow Treasurer and Shadow Minister for Planning. I haven’t had a single resident in this area say that it’s not an important issue. They all say for them it’s a game changer, a life changer and a vote changer. But it’s not about the election, it’s about fairness and sustainability and you just can’t have a proposition that people are going to be potentially poisoned when a ship comes in. It’s not acceptable in the 21st century for this sort of interface between industry and residents. We don’t accept it in other areas. I’ve got Port Botany in my electorate there are buffer zones between residents and the ships. There’s no buffer zone here. People live right on the water and this is really in the scheme of things a small but very significant investment for the people of this area.

JOURNALIST: Eighteen million dollars is a small price to return a seat that was the birthplace of Labor to the Labor Party though isn’t it?

DALEY: There’s no doubt we’d like to get Balmain back, but I think the people of White Bay would like their lives back more than we’d like the seat back. That’s what today is all about.

JOURNALIST: So if you win Government will you proceed with this promise even if you don’t win the seat of Balmain?

DALEY: Absolutely. We’re not like the Liberals. It’s not like the oval in Orange. If we don’t win the seat we’ll still proceed with it, but if we don’t win Balmain the likelihood of us forming Government is made more difficult. So I’m saying to the people of Balmain, ensure there is a Daley Labor Government. Put us into power, vote Elly in. If we win Balmain, the likelihood of us being able to form Government is greatly enhanced. So no pressure; the people of Balmain have a choice to make and it’s a very significant one in a number of ways.

JOURNALIST: But this issue does go to the heart of a big platform for you and that is the noise and development and amenity of Sydney, doesn’t it? You’ve got fumes, you’ve got noise from one particular spot and it just feeds into that wider narrative you’re trying to make.

DALEY: I said on my very first day as Leader that there’s a madness that’s descended upon Sydney. And a ship on the doorstep of a house and a school spewing fumes into the living rooms and playgrounds of residents, that’s part of the madness of Sydney. This is a significant investment today to lift that madness.

JOURNALIST: Do you know at this stage what the increase in fees would be for cruise ships following this commitment of money?

DALEY: As Anthony said, we’ll sit down with the industry and work this out. We’re not about ambushing industry at all. Anthony’s been in touch with Carnival Cruises already. We’ll work it out amicably and over a long period of time it would be not a significant increase at all.

ALBANESE: That’s right. Look the industry understands that it has a responsibility here. And they, I’m sure, will work with us constructively. They’ve said that and what they want is a clear direction forward. It’s what industry is looking for in general from government and certainty is what they’re not receiving from either the Berejiklian Government or the Morrison Government. We’re providing them with certainty. We’re providing the upfront capital cost. We’ll recoup that over a period of time because we know that the cruise ship industry does deliver an important economic boost for Sydney, New South Wales and for the nation. So as the Tourism Shadow Minister, I’m about growing tourism. Not just here, but right throughout the country. Sydney is a global capital, but Sydney could be so much better. This is just one of the ways, let alone before we start on the issues that Michael is leading on like having a night time economy here in Sydney. And really we can do so much better. Because at the moment, frankly, Melbourne is ahead of Sydney on so many issues when it comes to delivering for people who visit. Sydney should be the global capital. We have this magnificent natural beauty of this harbour, which is here. And it’s why people who travel on cruise ships want accessibility to Sydney. But it needs to be done in a way that’s sustainable. And we can hear the noise here behind us. It is absurd that in 2019 a ship keeps its engines running at a great cost to the environment, to emissions but importantly to the amenity and liveability of people who live in this local community.

JOURNALIST: So Mr Albanese, how long would a ship keep its engines running while it’s docked here, is it a few hours?

ALBANESE: They’re there the whole time – 24 hours a day. Now, we’re here in the middle of the morning. At 3am that same level of noise is a lot louder and that is why there is an absolutely legitimate reason why this needs to be fixed and I have implored the various Infrastructure Ministers in the revolving door that is the Government at a Federal level to do something about this. And they’ve ignored it and enough is enough. This is 24 hours a day – completely unacceptable, not just the noise, but of course the smell and of course the health impacts. Spewing out particulates onto a local community is unacceptable in 2019.

JOURNALIST: While I’ve got you Mr Albanese, the ABC revealed today that a hotel in Alice Springs is segregating guests based on their race. What’s your response to this kind of blatant racism in 2019?

ALBANESE: Well it’s just completely unacceptable. Completely unacceptable. In 2019 we need to understand that people are just people, regardless of race, regardless of religion, regardless of gender, regardless of sexuality. We need to treat people with dignity and with respect and this is an appalling revelation today.

JOURNALIST: What should the Government do?

ALBANESE: Well I’ll tell you what should happen, is that the Government should be condemning this, point one. Point two it should be demanding that they immediately stop this practice and never be done anywhere in this country again. We’re a better country than that. We’re an inclusive country. We’re one that has respect for people, whether they be Australian residents or whether they be people who come here.
JOURNALIST: What should the company itself do?

ALBANESE: Well the company should hang its head in shame, is the first thing they should do, and they should take action. In my view, anyone who engages in this sort of practice has no right to continue employment in their job.

JOURNALIST: If you become the Minister for Tourism and the company doesn’t act, what would you do about this?

ALBANESE: I think, hopefully, that happens well beforehand. This needs immediate action, not to wait until May 11 or May 18. But like in other areas, Labor is leading from Opposition, Federally and in New South Wales, and if current governments of the Coalition don’t act then we won’t be found wanting.

JOURNALIST: If no action is taken, would you consider placing a ban on government and public service staff staying at Accor Group hotels?

ALBANESE: We would consider whatever action is appropriate. But I’m sure that the leadership in Accor, that have by the way a fantastic Indigenous traineeship program, that I know are making sure they have a very strong apprenticeship program, bringing people through of diversity as well. They, I’m sure, will be just as shocked as I am about these revelations and I’m very confident that they’ll take action.

JOURNALIST: And lastly, Malcolm Turnbull did an interview overnight. Is he right when he says that some within the Coalition moved on him because they were worried he would win the election?

ALBANESE: Well Malcolm Turnbull is right. It is difficult to understand why the August coup against Malcolm Turnbull happened, let alone why anyone on Earth would think that Peter Dutton would be a stronger candidate for Prime Minister than Malcolm Turnbull at the Federal election. What we see here is a Coalition that’s obsessed by itself. We’re very different from that. What we’re obsessed by is lifting the living standards of Australians, creating opportunity in education, building infrastructure, making sure that healthcare is available to all.

This Government moved against Malcolm Turnbull, in spite of the fact that he was on 49 per cent so almost a 50-50 result from the previous Newspolls. He’d led as preferred Prime Minister on 58 consecutive occasions and the truth is that so many people in his own party were determined to destroy Malcolm Turnbull as their priority and that’s why they are not fit to govern. They have Scott Morrison as Prime Minister who was the fourth choice. Malcolm was first, Dutton was second, Bishop was third. Scott Morrison was the Steven Bradbury of Australian politics, who skated through and became Prime Minister, even though he didn’t need two hands to count how many supporters he actually had who thought he was the best person to be Prime Minister.

I mean that’s why this Government needs to be put out of its misery and Malcolm Turnbull, with his comments overnight, has belled the cat when it comes to their priorities. They’d rather fight each other than govern the country. How about we give them a bit of time in Opposition, where they can fight each other without creating such destructive consequences for our nation.

JOURNALIST: Mr Daley, so we had a decision in the Land and Environment Court this morning on the stadiums. So the original injunction has been vacated and there’s currently no injunction stopping the demolition of the Sydney Football Stadium. What’s your response?

DALEY: Well if the Premier is true to her word, the wrecking balls will be coming in this afternoon in defiance of the wishes of the people of New South Wales. Fifteen days to go until an election. Only someone spectacularly arrogant would send the wrecking balls in to knock that stadium down now, given that the anger about this is white hot. I’m advised that Local Democracy Matters are contemplating an appeal to the Court of Appeals as early as Monday. What the Premier should do is wait until the judicial processes have taken their course. Only a Government dripping in arrogance would seek to proceed in the manner that they said they would, but we’ve had Dominic Perrottet out the other day saying to me and to the people of New South Wales: ‘Just get out of the way’.

This is not just about stadiums. The stadiums are emblematic of everything we’ve seen with this Government. They change their minds, they don’t do the planning, when the business case doesn’t stack up they ignore it anyway, communities aren’t consulted, plans aren’t done. It’s like the light rail, it’s like the Westconnex, it’s like the Opal Building, it’s like a million dead fish in Menindee. This Allianz Stadium debacle is emblematic of everything this Government does and you know, at the end of the day, it’s always the taxpayer, it’s always the ordinary citizen of New South Wales, that gets stung with this mob. The top end of town, they just do fine, thanks very much, but it’s always the ordinary citizen that gets burned.

JOURNALIST: Do you think the Government would be as brazen as to send in the wrecking balls this weekend, while there’s no injunction?

DALEY: Absolutely. They haven’t said they wouldn’t. In fact, the Treasurer said: ‘Get out of the way of our wrecking balls’. There was a rally there yesterday afternoon, ordinary people expressing themselves, and we had the farce yesterday of me standing there giving a press conference while an injunction was in place, while the thing was being demolished behind us. If there’s one thing you can count on with this Government, it’s that arrogance reigns supreme and on stadiums it’s business as usual, in that regard.

JOURNALIST: What did you make of the fact that the Premier was pressed on this repeatedly yesterday, about when the stadium would be demolished, and she didn’t use the word stadium, but said it was business as usual?

DALEY: That’s just a bewildering lack of leadership. It means that this stadium issue, having been such a hot button issue, it’s been so controversial for so long, the Premier either didn’t know what to do, or she did and she just wouldn’t be honest about it. That’s a comprehensive failure of leadership – a bewildering failure of leadership.

JOURNALIST: And I want to ask you about this point about the injunction and the demolition. So the injunction was against a so called ‘hard demolition’ of the roof and walls, but as you rightly pointed out yesterday, there was demolition work taking place. Is that disingenuous?

DALEY: Well we don’t know what was going on there yesterday, because just like the secrecy that surrounded the Westconnex, just like the secrecy that attends the light rail, what’s happening inside the stadium is a secret as well, because members of the public aren’t allowed in. How about the Premier opening the gate and letting a delegation of people come and see what has been happening there under the cover of darkness or in the morning yesterday? It’s secretive, chaotic, business as usual.

JOURNALIST: Mr Albanese, I might get your thoughts on this. I mean, how interesting is it for you that a stadium, a $730 million stadium, has become a defining issue in the State Election?

ALBANESE: Well what we see here is that Sydney and New South Wales, because New South Wales isn’t just Sydney, in spite of what the Berejiklian Government seems to think. It needs a whole range of infrastructure – a whole range of it. But what we’re seeing is a State Government, that refused by the way, when I was the Infrastructure Minister, we put $2.1 billion on the table, New South Wales had to contribute $500 million, for the Parramatta to Epping Rail Link.

That would have opened up those high value jobs around the Macquarie precinct and Macquarie University, to the people of Western Sydney. That would have been opening now. That would have been opening right now, but the New South Wales Government refused to build it, because they’re obsessed with toll roads and they’re obsessed by not doing the right thing. Now, I’m a football fan, along with Michael, a fan of the Rabbitohs, and the fact is that Allianz Stadium was a perfectly good stadium. And the idea that you knock it over to build another one is just all about the arrogance of the Berejiklian Government and the elite who run the SCG Trust, who are completely out of touch with the needs of the people of New South Wales and I congratulate Michael on his stance. He’s been consistent, he’s been strong and he’s showing leadership. The fact that Gladys Berejiklian can give a press conference and not use the word stadium shows that she knows, deep down, that she’s doing the wrong thing, but because the top end of town have called for this, then she’s incapable of showing the leadership to say: ‘No, enough is enough. This is a mistake. I will change tack’. And the arrogance of knocking over the stadium just days before a State Election, I think she will be punished and I think she deserves to be punished by the voters if this proceeds.

DALEY: Can I also add that the Premier is at Parramatta Stadium today, or is going to be at Parramatta Stadium. Whilst the Premier is at Parramatta, she needs to explain to the people of Western Sydney and to the people of New South Wales, how it can be that Parramatta Stadium was $360 million, but Allianz Stadium in Sydney’s east, which has a slightly larger capacity, is double the cost. Where is the money going?



Mar 8, 2019

Transcript of Television Interview – SKY News First Edition – Friday, 8 March 2019

Subjects: Malcolm Turnbull, Barnaby Joyce, opinion polls, White Bay, Home Affairs, border security.

KIERAN GILBERT: Let’s go live to the Labor frontbencher Anthony Albanese.


GILBERT: I wonder, what’s your view on the broader issue of instability that we have seen across our political discourse over the last decade? How much is that really in people’s minds, or is it all going to be down simply to the hip pocket when we go to the polls in May?

ALBANESE: Well I think Malcolm Turnbull is right with his comments on the BBC. It was madness in my view for him to be replaced with a fourth choice Leader in Scott Morrison, who only got elected Prime Minister because people disliked either Malcolm Turnbull or Peter Dutton more. Since then of course we know the Scott Morrison hasn’t been able to explain why he is the Prime Minister rather than Malcolm Turnbull, who was elected by the Australian people at the last election. And when you look at the facts, the Coalition was on 49 per cent for a couple of polls in a row. They were increasing their primary and their two-party preferred vote and Malcolm Turnbull had won 58 Newspolls in a row as preferred prime minister.

So it was a very strange event indeed and I think when Australians go to the polls, whether it is May 11 or May 18, they will have front of mind that the Coalition will continue to be unstable. They are now talking about knocking off Michael McCormack after the election is the word, but perhaps beforehand, as the National Party Leader and the Deputy Prime Minister and replacing him with of all people Barnaby Joyce. You know the idea that Peter Dutton could be a preferred choice as Prime Minister or Barnaby Joyce, in all of the circumstances which are there about him, that people of regional Australia are saying “bring him back” is just bizarre frankly and shows how out of touch they are.

LAURA JAYES: It’s interesting that you want to keep talking about Barnaby Joyce and Malcolm Turnbull …

ALBANESE: The Coalition wants to talk about it.

JAYES: With these two in in the headlines, this is just a gift to Labor going into the election isn’t it?

ALBANESE: Well of course it is but the truth is that their activity over a long period of time has undermined their own credibility. They have stopped governing and what you have with Labor is us leading from Opposition. Today I will be with Michael Daley, the New South Wales Labor Leader, announcing our support for ship-to-shore power down at White Bay, the cruise ship terminal; making sure that there is appropriate infrastructure there that supports the tourism industry but at the same time provides protection for the local community from fumes just leaking out all over the local public schools in particular and the local Catholic school – a practical initiative. We have Bill Shorten in Adelaide today announcing our support for upgrades on the South Road – a process that we began when we were last in government with projects like the South Road Superway and Torrens to Torrens. We have shadow ministers right around the country announcing policies at the same time the Government is just talking about themselves.

GILBERT: What do you say to people who might be thinking why should of all the people that benefit from a yearning for stability that people would vote for your Leader, who stabbed a couple of prime ministers in the back? What do you say to people in the electorate who might be thinking that?

ALBANESE: What I would say is that Labor has been very stable in recent years. I’m very much on the record at the time and I think it was proven correct that what Labor did in 2010 was a mistake and not just in terms of short-term politics, but we have seen the impact that it has had over a number of years now with four prime ministers replaced. And when you look back at the previous history, that didn’t occur. What I would say to them is that we go to an election where we have had the same Leader, the same Deputy Leader, the same Shadow Treasurer, the same Shadow Infrastructure Minister, the same Shadow Health Minister over the entire period. And we are ready to hit the ground running. We are focused on lifting up the economy, which is slowing. We are focused on lifting wages. We are focusing on building infrastructure.

JAYES: But who is going to be the Home Affairs Minister if you win Anthony Albanese?

ALBANESE: Well that will be a decision for Bill Shorten to make and he will announce that at the appropriate time. But what we have is an outstanding team. And what’s more, we have got an outstanding team in the wings, the sort of people elected in the last couple of terms who could be cabinet ministers.

JAYES: You just outlined an outstanding team but Shayne Neumann is in the role at the moment and everyone is being talked about but him. What does it say about the person that you have and their strength in this portfolio at the moment?

ALBANESE: Shayne Neumann I think has been doing a very good job.

JAYES: Why isn’t he good enough to be in that role in Government then?

ALBANESE: Well he is the Shadow Immigration Minister and he has been doing an excellent job in holding Peter Dutton to account for his failure for example to settle the people who have been there for more than five years on Manus and Nauru. It’s far too long.

GILBERT: On that front, what do you say about this report on the front of The Australian suggesting it’s a $6 billion bill to increase the humanitarian intake to 32,000 refugees a year?

ALBANESE: Seriously, these so-called reports with so-called costings of Labor policies; what I would say is that it shows yet again that the Government isn’t focused on governing. It is focused on putting out these nonsense reports, usually that get found out that Treasury and Finance and no-one has had anything to do with them and they were done on the back of a Wheaties packet. Seriously, this Government cannot give an interview about policy and what it is doing governing the nation without talking about Labor, and that says it all about the fact that they don’t have a positive agenda.

GILBERT:  It won’t cost anywhere near this number? Is that right? Is that your view?

ALBANESE: Well I haven’t even seen the report Kieran. Frankly one of the things I have done is not worry too much about so-called reports put in there by the Government about what the Opposition is doing. I think one of the problems that the Government has in getting a message through is these daily dropouts, you know “exclusive report”, that Labor’s policy would have this impact with some big figures. I don’t know why they talk about billions. Why don’t they talk about trillions given they make stuff up all the time?

GILBERT: Anthony Albanese, Labor frontbencher, we will talk to you soon. Thanks for your time.

ALBANESE: Thanks for having me on the program.

Mar 8, 2019

Transcript of Television Interview – The Today Show – Friday, 8 March 2019

Subjects; Malcolm Turnbull interview, Nationals leadership, Prime Minister’s Christmas Island trip, Christopher Pyne’s retirement.

DEBORAH KNIGHT: Former Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has unleashed on his Liberal colleagues, revealing in an interview with the BBC that he was dumped because his party didn’t want him to win the next election and calling the coup: ‘A peculiarly Australian form of madness’. The Government’s Christopher Pyne joins me now from Adelaide, along with Labor’s Anthony Albanese. Good morning to you both, fellas.



KNIGHT: Christopher, you were in the Malcolm Turnbull cheer squad. Is he on the money here or is he just delusional?

PYNE: Look I think we’ve raked over those coals quite enough in the last few months, Deb, and I don’t propose to talk about it any further.

KNIGHT: It is damaging though, for this to be raised with just a few months now before the election. It seems for outside observers that this is the ultimate act of revenge.

PYNE: Well Deb, my focus is on keeping Labor out of office. We have a growing economy, growing jobs, we have the policies to keep that going. Labor instead wants to smash people’s incomes with a retiree tax, a housing tax, capital gains tax being cut by 50 per cent, and we have to keep them out of office.

KNIGHT: Would a party ever though vote out a leader because they didn’t want them to win?

PYNE: Look as I said, you know Malcolm can do whatever interviews he likes, as can other people, but the reality is we’ve got a job to do and that is to stop Labor from wrecking our economy, stop them from wrecking our border protection.

KNIGHT: Okay Albo, Labor wrote the playbook really on revolving leaders. Is this is a peculiarly Australian form of madness, as Malcolm says?

ALBANESE: Well Malcolm Turnbull’s right in saying that the coup last year was an act of madness. The fact is that you went from someone who was on 49 per cent two party preferred, had been ahead in 58 Newspolls in a row as preferred Prime Minister –

KNIGHT: But had lost 40 consecutive.

ALBANESE: – And chose someone who was the fourth choice, in Scott Morrison, to be Prime Minister and the fact is that no one can explain, not Scott Morrison, not Christopher Pyne, no one, still will explain to the Australian people why that happened.

KNIGHT: Well it’s damaging to be raised, that is sure, for old wounds to be opened up so close. But Christopher, it seems there’s no end to all of this – reports this morning that Barnaby Joyce could be back as Leader of the Nationals, with Michael McCormack losing the confidence of his party. Could we see yet another coup?

PYNE: Look I very much doubt it. I’m not responsible for the National Party, nor am I responsible for the number of leaders that the Labor Party churned through in the time that they were…

KNIGHT: But is Michael McCormack safe?

PYNE: I think the bottom line is what the public want is a government that moves forward with stability. We’re united behind our policies of reducing taxation, growing the economy, protecting our borders, sticking behind our leader Scott Morrison.

KNIGHT: You’re on message today, Christopher.

PYNE: And Labor are a danger to all of those things.

ALBANESE: It’s just talking points. The Government’s reduced to these simplistic talking points. Speaks about the economy, well the economy’s slowing, we saw that this week. Speaks about living standards, well wages are in decline in real terms, that’s one of the big issues at this election. And speaks about unity, yes people do want unity, they’ll get with the Labor Government. What we have here – the idea that Barnaby Joyce could come back as the Deputy Prime Minister quite frankly is farcical.

KNIGHT: Now the other big issue that’s being touted around, of course, is border protection and the Prime Minister toured the detention centre on Christmas Island this week, ahead of it reopening. It was a short trip, but a costly one, costing taxpayers around $60,000. Christopher, do you think that was money well spent?

PYNE: Well of course it was, because the Prime Minister wanted to see what it will look like when we reopen the Christmas Island detention centre because of Labor’s policy.

KNIGHT: Couldn’t he have raised those issues from here in Australia, though?

PYNE: Well he got briefings and viewed the various different facilities on Christmas Island as Prime Minister. This wouldn’t be necessary – it’s going to cost $1.4 billion – it wouldn’t be necessary if Labor hadn’t weakened our border protection policies when the Parliament last sat. It’s a disgraceful thing that Labor did. They did it to score political points, but it’s going to cost money and it will put people’s lives at risk.

KNIGHT: Albo, Bill Shorten was very strong on claiming this was a waste of money yesterday.

ALBANESE: As he should have been. Scott Morrison could have stood in front of a palm tree in Cronulla. He didn’t have to go anywhere outside of his electorate to do this press conference. What it showed is that the Government is all about politics with this issue. There’s been no weakening of any of our borders. You can have strong borders without being weak on humanity. That’s the position we’ve brought to this issue and the Government is just determined to run scare campaigns, because they haven’t got a positive agenda. They’ve run out of ideas.

PYNE: Goodness gracious.

ALBANESE: And in May, I hope they’re out of time as well.

KNIGHT: Triggering a ‘goodness gracious’.

PYNE: Last time Labor was in power Deb they had 50,000 unauthorised arrivals on 800 boats and the opened 17 detention centres. That’s what Labor’s policies look like.

ALBANESE: And last year you had a record number – a record number of people applied for asylum, last year. Twenty eight thousand here on your watch.

PYNE: That’s what Labor’s policies look like. You can talk over me all you like.

KNIGHT: This is like the old gang, hey? This is it. You’re back to normal now.

ALBANESE: On your watch, Christopher. Twenty eight thousand people while Peter Dutton is the Minister applied for asylum here last year. Record numbers.

PYNE: You can talk over me all you like. The public know you can’t protect our borders and we can. That’s the bottom line. We’ve got the record from your period in government.

KNIGHT: We are going to miss this when you go Christopher. You’re leaving us. You’re pulling the pin on Parliament. Breaking up the band.

PYNE: Well, you know, 51 years old I can start another career now, Deb, after 26 years in politics.

KNIGHT: What will you do?

PYNE: I haven’t decided finally yet. I’ve had a lot of offers. I’ve had a lot of offers.

ALBANESE: He’s got to work out what else he’s good at.

PYNE: I’ve got to work out exactly what I want to do, but it’s going to be a quieter life, perhaps less prominent, but I’ll still be barracking for the Liberal team, there’s no doubt about that.

KNIGHT: You would never be less prominent, Christopher, goodness me.

PYNE: A little bit less prominent.

ALBANESE: It’s one thing to leave Parliament, but he’s leaving the Today Show.

KNIGHT: I know.

ALBANESE: He’s breaking up the segment.

KNIGHT: I know. What are you going to get him as a farewell gift?

PYNE: What will I do without this money? What will I do without the salary from the Today Show?

KNIGHT: Oh the salary.

ALBANESE: I think his farewell gift is not having to turn up to Parliament.

KNIGHT: That’s the gift that keeps on giving, you reckon?

ALBANESE: That’s absolutely right.

PYNE: Anthony won’t be far behind, he’s desperate to get out.

KNIGHT: Really Albo?

ALBANESE: I’ll be there for a very long time. I’m just getting started.

PYNE: You won’t be able to go on without me. You’ll miss me.

ALBANESE: I wish Christopher and Caroline and the kids all the best.

PYNE: Thank you Anthony. I appreciate that.

KNIGHT: There you go. Well we will continue the sparring at least, as we head closer to the election.

ALBANESE: And we actually have had the discussion, we’re two of the people who will actually talk to each other post-Parliament.

PYNE: It’s true.

KNIGHT: That is true.

ALBANESE: That’s includes some of our colleagues.

PYNE: Anthony is a friend.

KNIGHT: Well gentleman, thank you for joining us and we’ll work on a gift for you, don’t you worry about that, Christopher. We’ll come up with a creative Today Show idea has a parting farewell gift.

PYNE: I look forward to it.

KNIGHT: Alright, careful. Thanks fellas.

ALBANESE: Careful what you wish for.



Mar 6, 2019

Transcript of Radio Interview – FIVEaa Adelaide, Two Tribes – Wednesday, 6 March 2019

Subjects: Retirement of Christopher Pyne.

HOST: Well, perhaps giving us something of a taste of the future, he jokingly last night tweeted that he’s looking forward to becoming One Tribe, Anthony Albanese’s on the line. Albo, good morning to you.

ALBANESE: I reckon me arguing with myself would be gold.

HOST: Well, guess what Albo? You get to audition in that capacity this morning because, I don’t know, maybe Christopher’s just turned off all the alarms now.

ALBANESE: He’s given up. He’s given up.

HOST: He’s checked out already.

ALBANESE: He’s gone. He’s slept in.

HOST: Normally he’s extremely fastidious. He’s normally even quicker than you when it comes to calling in, but we’re chasing him down ourselves so hopefully we’ll get him on the line shortly.

ALBANESE: I can speak on his behalf perhaps.

HOST: What do you reckon he’ll say?

ALBANESE: I reckon he’ll say, “I’ve recognised after all these years that my party is hopeless, the Government is hopeless, all is lost and that’s why I’m going.”

HOST: “I am leaving a sinking ship”. Hey Albo, last time we spoke …

ALBANESE: “I’m so in favour of subs I got on one and it sunk.”

HOST: We only make the best here in South Australia. Hey, when we last spoke a couple of weeks ago …

ALBANESE: They are meant to sink, by the way.

HOST: Yeah, they just come back up again. There was a great poll out for Chris, clearly wasn’t great enough that he wants to stick around after the next election, but you made the point then that you don’t think you’re targeting Sturt, has that changed with Christopher Pyne now stepping away from the seat?

ALBANESE: Look, I think it’s a whole new dynamic. On a serious note, I very much wish Christopher well, for both him and Caroline and the kids. I spoke to him after his resignation and I must say he wasn’t having second thoughts, and I think that it opens it up. He’s obviously been a very strong representative. He’s also been, I think, a progressive within the Liberal Party. He’s obviously supported Malcolm Turnbull’s leadership strongly and was a strident opponent and blocker of Peter Dutton becoming the Prime Minister. I think that would reflect the views of his electorate, of Sturt. It’s a progressive electorate, and I think we certainly are targeting Boothby in Adelaide with Nadia Clancy who we think is a fantastic candidate. I think we’ll wait and see how it goes.

HOST: Do you shift your focus now though? Incumbency – the word meaning the level of support for a long-term sitting member has – can be worth five percent, even more in some seats. He’s been there for three decades almost. Does it mean that you guys now regard Sturt as winnable?

ALBANESE: I think we regard all seats as winnable as our starting point, but we’ll be campaigning there. We regard the sitting member in Boothby, who supported Peter Dutton as Prime Minister, as being an asset for us in the election campaign. It’s not always a plus.

HOST: Those flyers are out in the seat, that’s for sure. Christopher Pyne now is on the line. Christopher, good morning to you.

PYNE: Good morning. I apologise for not being available when you were ringing. It’s very unlike me.

ALBANESE: I’ve been speaking on your behalf, Christopher.

PYNE: I’m sure you’d have been saying nice things too, especially now that I’m retiring. When you’re retiring everybody wants to be nice.

ALBANESE: Exactly.

HOST: Chris, can we ask, was there a moment or event that galvanised your decision to quit?

PYNE: No, not really. I decided in January and February down at the beach and then back to work, I thought I’d better think about whether I’m going to go on or not. I went to Canberra on about February the 6th to get ready for Parliament and do some ministerial duties and thought, “I’m not certain I want to necessarily be here after the election,” and I thought, “I’ll get them through the two weeks of the sitting, and think about it on the weekend.” I did that and I decided enough was enough. Twenty-six years have been great, I’d been very lucky, but it was time for renewal and I told the Prime Minister on Tuesday and told the world on Saturday.

HOST: So how do you want to be remembered and, separately from that, how do you think you’ll be remembered?

PYNE: A difficult question. Look, I’ve absolutely loved being a local member of Parliament, representing my electorate and dealing with the individual constituent concerns which, for those people who come to see a Member of Parliament, or write or phone – to them that’s a very big issue in their day, otherwise they wouldn’t be doing that. So solving their problems has been a very exciting part of the job. Then there’s the big parts of the job, like the Submarine Project, the Hunter Class of frigates, the Space Agency, the various things that I’ve brought to our State, and invested in through defence capability. But I guess if you summed all that up I’d like to be remembered as a fierce advocate for my electorate, for my State, and for my country.

HOST: A lot of people, in covering your departure, talk about the factional player, the numbers man.

PYNE: Well, as you said in your column on the weekend, you can’t actually get to be a Cabinet Minister, a Member of Parliament, an advocate for your side of politics, unless you win the internal battles which are inevitable in every political party, to get elected. There’s a lot of people who wanted to be the Member for Sturt over the last thirty years, or wanted to be Minister for Defence or Defence Industry, or Education, or whatever it might have been, but I played politics in the situation where I was in a position to get appointed to those jobs or to get elected. Now, there’s a lot of people who turn up with a handful of want and a mouthful of gimme, but unless you’ve got the numbers, you don’t win.

HOST: Do you have any concerns now, you step aside at the same time as Julie Bishop, and you’re probably one of the most influential, progressive voices within the party, that it’s been lauded by some on the Right as a sort of a returning to conservatism in the Liberal Party federally? Have you got any concern about the shift or where the party is broadly?

PYNE: Look, the Liberal Party has been a broad church since 1944. We’re not shifting to any particular political dynamic. There’ve always been a large number of people who would regard themselves as more to the centre of the political spectrum in the Liberal Party, particularly in South Australia, and there are people who regard themselves to the right of the political spectrum, but one person retiring, in my case, doesn’t mean that that has changed that shift or that dynamic. There’ll always be two wings of the party and for the party to be successful both of those wings need to be healthy.

HOST: Do you want to respond to Julie Bishop suggesting that you were influential in orchestrating, in denying her the leadership of the party?

PYNE: I don’t see any point in raking over those old coals, it’s time to look to the future and I’m sure Anthony’s desperate to say something about how much he likes me.

HOST: He got a huge run at the start.

ALBANESE: I’m just being polite now, Christopher.

PYNE: Thank you. Thank you.

ALBANESE: Can I make this point though? On Saturday I put out a positive tweet about Christopher. We’re genuine friends. One of the things that we’ve spoken about is that we would catch up post politics, and that’s something that I won’t do with all of my side, let alone people on the other side. Some of the responses to that, I just say to people look, you can have political differences whilst having having respect for people from the other side, and Christopher and I have a friendship, and if people don’t like that, well frankly, bad luck. I genuinely wish him well, both privately and publicly, and I stand by that. I am disappointed at some of the polarisation that has happened in politics. It seems to be exacerbated by Twitter and by people saying things behind fake names or in private that they’d never say to your face. Christopher has been an honourable opponent.

HOST: It’s a generous assessment. You guys are like Sam and Ralph in the Warner Brothers cartoon – you tear each to shreds during the day and then knock off.

PYNE: Morning Ralph.

ALBANESE: Morning Sam.

HOST: Chris, finally, have you got any ideas about what you’re going to do next, because you’re young enough to have a second career?

PYNE: Well that was a big part of my consideration. One, I’d been in Parliament for over a quarter of a century. Two, I’m fifty-one, and three, it’s nice to choose your own time of departure in politics, and it’s quite frankly very rare. Most people lose their seats or their pre-selection. But my intention is to have another career, to go into business, to promote defence, defence industry, to work with businesses here in South Australia that want to export, trade, grow, and I think that’ll be something I’m excited about. I’ll bring that same energy to that passion that I’ve brought to politics and I’m looking forward to it.

HOST: A lot of ex-politicians Christopher, go into the media. You’ve always been a sensational media performer, maybe could we find a role for you here behind the microphone?

PYNE: Maybe as a guest commentator every now and then. I could come in and replace you so you could go on holiday.

HOST: I like that idea.

ALBANESE: I’d have to come in too.

PYNE: You would.

ALBANESE: But they wouldn’t let that happen because the ratings would jump.

HOST: You never want to be replaced by someone that’s better than you, that’s for sure. Guys, we would love to keep Tribes going up until the election. Obviously after that we’ll have to have pack down and rethink.

ALBANESE: After that it’s One Tribe, we’ve done that deal.

PYNE: Well I’m in.

HOST: I’m not sure what ACMA would think about that. Good on you, Chris. Chris Pyne and Anthony Albanese, thank for joining us this morning. We’ll do it again next week.

ALBANESE: Good on you, guys.


Mar 5, 2019

Transcript of Doorstop – Hobart – Tuesday, 5 March 2019

Subjects: City Partnerships Tasmania; Election 2019.

JULIE COLLINS: It’s great to have Anthony Albanese here in Hobart with us with our candidate for Clark, Ben McGregor, but also with our colleague Senator Carol Brown and of course our State Labor Leader Rebecca White and our State Shadow Minister David O’Byrne, and also fellow Member for Franklin. We’ve had a great meeting with the mayors, the Lord Mayor of Hobart, the Mayor of Clarence, the Mayor of Glenorchy and the Mayor of Kingborough; talking about a true partnership going forward should a Shorten Labor Government win the next election. We want to work with the Greater City of Hobart mayors  to actually deliver for the people of Hobart. What we saw recently from the dud deal by the current Federal Government, was a whole heap of cobbled together policies and re-announcements that really won’t see anything change for the residents of Greater Hobart.

I know when I’m out and about talking to my constituents, people say: ‘What’s in this city deal for us?’ And when you tell them that most of the money is being spent on Antarctica, when you tell them that the $25 million for light rail has been spent on some strategy that nobody can explain, and when you tell them that the only other thing in it is a heap of re-announcements and $30 million for housing over five years, they look a little bit stunned. They were expecting a lot more from this after 800 days. But it’s been terrific to have Anthony Albanese here to talk about what true City Partnerships look like when you actually engage at the local level with local mayors. I’ll hand over to Albo.

ANTHONY ALBANESE: Thanks very much, Julie. It’s great to be back here in Tasmania for the second time in the past five days. I always enjoy coming here and it has been a very constructive meeting between Federal Labor, State Labor and the four mayors from Greater Hobart; talking about our vision for City Partnerships. And the key is in that word. A deal is something that is essentially a fix and this is a fix to get the Coalition Government through an election. It wasn’t thought through; after 800 days all they could do as the centrepiece was give back the money for Customs and processing at the Airport that they themselves had taken away in a decision of just a few years ago.

We’ve seen Macquarie Point down here that we funded $50 million for way back in 2012 and the State Government has been unable to progress what is a vital urban revitalisation project. We want to see, under City Partnerships, true partnerships; priorities determined by local communities to benefit local communities. And that’s what’s missing from the so-called City Deal.

Our partnerships will be overseen by the Major Cities Unit that we will recreate at the Commonwealth level after its abolition on the very first day that Tony Abbott was elected as the Prime Minister. That Major Cities Unit will oversee a process of how we get better coordination between the Federal Government, State Government and local government; about how they work with the private sector to enhance the productivity, sustainability and liveability of our cities. We’ll actually have guidelines developed in consultation with local government, making sure that it’s very clear that there is a transparent process whereby local government can put forward proposals for City Partnerships supported by state and territory governments.

This is, I think, a vast difference and the people who we met with today, the elected mayors, are in a very strong position to know what is needed in their local communities. That’s why when we were last in government we established as well, the Australian Council of Local Government; for the first time having a direct relationship between the mayors in the 500 councils around Australia and the national Government. They got to actually meet with the Cabinet from the Prime Minister down, and talk about what their priorities are. We want a new respectful relationship, not one that imposes from above, but one that builds from below based upon the fact that local government is in the best position to know what local communities need and what they want. Happy to take questions.

REPORTER: Do you intend on scrapping any of the parts of the City Deal that currently exist?

ALBANESE: What we’ll do is we will maintain all of the funding that is budgeted for as part of any City Deal arrangement. One of the things that people are annoyed with is that when there is a change of government, often things have to go back to the beginning. We want to build on what’s there. But we think, frankly, there’s not that much there in terms of a foundation. So for example the $25 million on light rail, it is very unclear what it is for because there’s not enough to build the project, but it’s too much if it’s about having a business case. So we’ll maintain that funding for public transport, but we’ll make sure it actually makes a difference. At the moment it’s $25 million that won’t produce anything.

REPORTER: You mentioned the Macquarie Point re-development, which sits right next to Macquarie Wharf, which is a working port and will continue to be a working port with logs there. Do you have any concerns about log truck movements through the city of Hobart and is there anything you would do to address that?

ALBANESE: We can work through those issues. One of the things that we were responsible for when we were last in government was making sure that we built the Intermodal and we took a lot of the freight pressure off. We had the rail revitalisation plan that – I worked with David O’Byrne and one of the things that’s happened under this Government is they took a whole lot of funding out, put a little bit back and called it new funding.

There is not a single major infrastructure project underway in the State of Tasmania that was not funded in the 2013 Budget or before. And that is an indictment of the Government. When you look at the work that we did on the Midland Highway, the Brooker Highway; Burnie Port around Bell Bay. When you look at the upgrades that we had to Bellerive – to Aurora – I think it’s called something else these days. When you look at the investment that we made here in Tasmania, we more than doubled the Infrastructure Budget here in Tasmania and that was making a big difference.

This Government if it is re-elected, we know that the Forward Estimates show that infrastructure funding essentially falls off a cliff. And what they’ve done with this so-called City Deal just before an election is called, having had 800 days to actually do something about it, is come up with essentially a smokescreen, where they have cobbled together different things that were happening anyway and called it a City Deal. Well it’s not good enough. Tasmania deserves better. And this growing city, thriving city of Hobart, deserves better as well.

REPORTER: Is there anything that you would specifically do to reduce forestry freight or logging truck movements through Hobart?

ALBANESE: Well we’ll work through all of those issues. One of the things about Macquarie Point is that, when I was the Minister, we began the process of appointing a structure, a board, to advance that project. Now after 2013 the momentum for that from the federal level disappeared completely because Tony Abbott wasn’t interested in cities at all. And the State Government here under Will Hodgman, into its second term, hasn’t been able to advance that project at all. And the $50 million that was got for that project, handed over by the Federal Government, was supposed to facilitate the State Government progressing that project and it simply hasn’t happened and they are wasted years. And if we are elected in May then one of the first things I’ll be doing, is sitting down with the State Government and demanding to know why it is that they have been unable or incapable of advancing that project. I know that Rebecca White wants to advance the project and wants to work with us constructively. But we’ll work with the Government of the day in advancing these issues.

REPORTER: Do you support State Labor’s position on making the inclusion of a child’s sex on birth certificates optional?

ALBANESE: That’s a state issue. I’m here to talk about the Commonwealth’s role in City Partnerships and that’s my focus here today.

REPORTER: Are you pleased that State Labor has taken a step back from its pokies policy?

ALBANESE: Once again I’m not a State Labor spokesperson. I have a big job in the Federal Opposition as Spokesperson for Infrastructure, Transport, Regional Development, Cities and Tourism. I was here on Friday with my tourism hat on, with Rebecca at what was the biggest dinner ever held in Launceston, I’m told. It was a great success. And later today I’ll be talking to the Tasmanian tourism sector about ways in which we can advance tourism here in Tasmania. We know that it already employs – about 15 per cent of employment in Tasmania comes directly from the tourism sector. I’m very focused on the job that I have.

REPORTER: Pokies obviously isn’t just a state issue though. For example independent Andrew Wilkie will certainly be campaigning on it for the seat of Clark. So surely Federal Labor has a position on it?

ALBANESE: What Federal Labor will be doing is campaigning on federal issues and we think that what we would want to do is to hold this Government to account. I mean what we see over the last week is Ministers running for the door. We expect that there’ll be more vacancies in the coming couple of months. Our focus is on Federal issues and we’ll continue to campaign on Federal issues in the lead up to the election.

REPORTER: On that – same topic – is the poker machine issue something you would prefer not to become a part of the Federal Election?

ALBANESE: Well we’ll be campaigning on Federal issues and I’ll be campaigning particularly on my portfolio. But we’ve got a big job. The Federal Government is responsible for running the national economy and we have low wages growth, we have some dangerous science on the global horizon. Some clouds are out there and we need to make sure that we have that sustainable economic growth. How do you do that? You invest in infrastructure and you invest in people through skills and through education, early childhood education and right through to university and TAFE, as well as the school system.

We’re responsible, of course, for Medicare which will be at the centre of the health system that we run. We have Julie Collins here and Carol Brown will both be playing important roles as Shadow Ministers. So we have an important task to do. We think that we are in a position whereby we are united, we have a vision for the country, we know where we want to take it. We want to advance opportunity, not entrench privilege. And one of the things that means, is making sure that we invest here in Tasmania. And it’s why this is my second visit here in a week, I’ll continue to be back here campaigning on Federal issues. Thanks very much.


Mar 1, 2019

Transcript of Television Interview – The Today Show – Friday, 1 March 2019

Subjects: George Pell, border security.

DEBORAH KNIGHT: Good morning to you both.

ANTHONY ALBANESE:  Good morning.


KNIGHT: Christopher, to you first: John Howard wrote a character reference for George Pell after his conviction in December and Tony Abbott, who we know is a friend of Cardinal Pell, called him after the guilty verdict was made public. There is of course loyalty at play here because they are friends. But do you think they have made a mistake here?

PYNE: Well that’s a matter for them. They are personal friends of Cardinal George Pell. I have known Cardinal George Pell for a very long time – 20 years. I think John Howard wrote a character reference after the conviction of the Cardinal for the sentencing in terms of the sentence that Cardinal Pell might now receive and that is not an abnormal thing for that to occur in these situations, but whether this was a good idea is really a matter for them to answer, not for me to answer.

KNIGHT: Because I think I suppose, thinking about the victims here and that is where the criticism is coming, that there is not much thought going to the victims themselves.

PYNE: Well I do think that the conviction of Cardinal Pell should give a sense of justice to the families of the victims and to the victims themselves. I think that is very important. We don’t want to lose sight of the fact that the conviction was recorded and the action was taken to protect the justice of the country we live in and to make sure that those people who felt that a crime had been committed had that chance to be tested in court. They were found to be right and we don’t want to start re-contesting that case. There will be an appeal. Apparently Cardinal Pell intends to appeal and that needs to be given its chance to run. But primarily here victims of an historic sexual offence have had their day in court and justice has been served.

KNIGHT: Have you contacted him?

PYNE:  No.

KNIGHT: Anthony you are a Catholic and the faith of a lot of Catholics has been tested as a result of this. What was your reaction to hearing of the conviction?

ALBANESE: I think it showed that no-one was above the law in this country and that is a good thing. I think for the victims of institutional abuse that occurred of course not just in the Catholic Church; in all of the churches; in organisations like the Boy Scouts, I am very proud that Julia Gillard had the courage to call the Royal Commission and that arising out of that many people have been able to get some sense of justice. Of course nothing can repair the damage that has been done and I think what is unfortunate about the nature of John Howard and Tony Abbott’s interventions after the verdict is that John Howard’s letter, and he is someone I have respect for, but it made no reference at all to what had occurred and it also suggested that his view of George Pell had not been changed, and that I think was very unfortunate and it does show a lack of judgement.

KNIGHT: When it comes to the Royal Commission we know that the national redress scheme has been set up in the wake of that but there are so many of the victims who are still in limbo waiting to actually get access to compensation because the church as an institution has not signed up to that. Christopher, do you think they should be made to.

PYNE: Well they are, they are signing up individually as each diocese or archdiocese or education systems or state-based institutions.

KNIGHT: But should they come as a body?

PYNE: No that is entirely a matter for them. Every organisation runs their own system. Whether they joined up as one national organisation or whether they come as individual institutions is really neither here nor there. The important thing is that there is a redress scheme that was set up by the current Government, coming out of the Royal Commission that was set up by the previous Government. So this is not an area of partisanship. We want to make sure that there is compensation for those people who have been damaged. I think that’s the most important thing, not whether it’s set up with one institution or many institutions. I don’t know how the Catholic system operates, I’m not part of it, apart  from being a Catholic myself of course, but I’m not working for it, so I can’t talk to why they have that set up.

ALBANESE: I think quite clearly this verdict, if it needed anything more for the Catholic Church and other institutions to wake up, that they needed to stop dragging their feet, stop trying to minimise compensation and actually look after the victims of this abuse, then surely it’s time, and part of the criticism, I think legitimately, of the Church is that the Melbourne compensation appears to have been – set up a number of years ago before the Government intervention, which was bipartisan as Christopher has said – appeared to minimise the compensation that would be going to victims.

KNIGHT: And to have a convicted paedophile as the architect of a scheme for victims of abuse just seems quite strange.

ALBANESE: Absolutely.

PYNE: Well Deb, he wasn’t a convicted paedophile at that time, so…

KNIGHT: No, but to still have it in place at the moment is what a lot of the victims are looking at, at the moment.

PYNE: I was very impressed this week with the committee that met in the Vatican to talk about this, with Archbishop Coleridge of Brisbane’s comments, where he actually faced up in front of the Pope and said: ‘We only have ourselves to blame’. There was no sense that the Church in Rome was trying to shift blame to anyone else and I was proud as an Australian that the one of the leading voices was Archbishop Coleridge from Brisbane saying: ‘Let’s not try and blame anybody else for this. We only have ourselves to blame’. And I think that’s a very important step.

KNIGHT: A very important point to make, Christopher, that is true. Now the election may not have been called yet, but of course the campaigning is in full flight, and Albo it looks like Labor’s been snookered to some degree on the issue of border security. This was the Tweet that Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton put out yesterday, which I think we have here (Tweet shown onscreen) and the Government really has put it into points here that they’ve delivered. You can’t argue with that, can you?

ALBANESE: The fact is that this is a Government that is continuing to play politics with this issue. I saw Peter Dutton’s comments yesterday suggesting that people couldn’t get healthcare, into hospitals, because those places were being taken by refugees. I mean that sort of grubby politics really is unacceptable in this country. All the Government’s got left is a fear campaign, because they don’t have a positive agenda for governing the country.

KNIGHT: And how can that be right, Christopher, that they would be losing out, Australians, on hospital places or public housing places? Because I thought that the treatment of any asylum seekers would be taking place on Christmas Island?

PYNE: Well the more important point, Deb, is that under Labor is cost $16 billion to fix up their failed border protection policies. They had 8,000 children in detention, 50,000 unauthorised arrivals. They opened 17 detention centres. Now we fixed all that and Labor wants to take us back to those dark days again. They’ve weakened our border protection. We’re finding it very difficult to implement, for the reality is that we can’t actually return people once they come to Australia. The asylum seeker lawyers are all sharpening their pencils because they know that they’re going to be able to completely dismantle offshore protection, and that’s unfortunately because of the weakness of the Labor Party on border protection. I don’t like having to have strong border protection, but it’s better than people smugglers being in business.

ALBANESE: None of that’s true, of course.

KNIGHT: We will hear lots of this during the course of the campaign, no doubt. Plenty to come. We’re out of time. And Christopher, it’s lovely to have you back. We’ve missed you.

PYNE: I know, I’m sorry. In the last couple of weeks I’ve been on a plane at this time, so I’m very glad to be here.

KNIGHT: Well we’re glad to have you. Aren’t we, Albo?

PYNE: Looking forward to next week well.

ALBANESE: He’s all right.

KNIGHT: He’s all right.

ALBANESE: He’s all right.

PYNE: You’ve missed me. You have missed me.

KNIGHT: We have. It’s good to have you both here with us.

PYNE: Thank you Deb.

KNIGHT: Lots to discuss, as always. Thanks again.

ALBANESE: Thank you


Mar 1, 2019

Transcript of Radio Interview – ABC Northern Tasmania – Friday, 1 March 2019

Subjects: Tasmanian Tourism; Quality Tourism Framework.

PIAA WIRSU: Anthony Albanese is the Federal Shadow Minister for Tourism. He arrived not that long ago, mere minutes ago in fact, I believe for the Awards. Welcome to Drive, what will you be talking to operators about at the awards tonight?

ANTHONY ALBANESE: Well I’ll be talking about what they’re interested in, which is how government can actually facilitate tourism investment here in Australia and particularly in Tasmania. We know that there’s a million Australians rely upon tourism for their jobs. And tonight I’ll be announcing our support for what the sector have put themselves forward, through the Australian Tourism Industry Council, of a Quality Tourism Framework. Basically small grants, but which can really help tourism operators to develop their IT systems, to develop their marketing, to develop their skills. So that small businesses can become bigger businesses employing more people.

WIRSU: We will be headed to a Federal Election in the near future, there’s every chance you will become the Minister for Tourism out of that Election. What’s your vision for tourism in Tasmania?

ALBANESE: For Tasmania tourism is obviously absolutely vital. You have such an extraordinary natural environment. You have such an attractive range of destinations, whether it’s here in the north, or in the centre around Cradle Mountain, or whether it be your cities of Launceston and Hobart with food and wine and all that you have to offer here. It is an exciting destination and I have been very engaged with the Tasmanian tourism sector. One of the other advantages that you have is that they tend to speak on most occasions with one voice and that’s a very good thing. That isn’t always the case around the country; that really helps. So for example when we were last in government, we funded everything from bike trails here in the north, down to the Three Capes Track down in the south, and we funded upgrades to the Cradle Mountain infrastructure. We really think that tourism has an opportunity to be even a greater provider of employment here in Tasmania.

WIRSU: If your government is elected come the Federal Election that will happen in the next little while, what funding commitments do you have? What ideas do you have in mind to harness that opportunity in Tasmania?

ALBANESE: Well recently we have committed $30 million for Cradle Mountain. We’ve committed $8.8 million towards completing the North West Coastal Pathway. We have more announcements – tonight’s announcement is another $6 million – it’s a national announcement, but that has been a big priority including here in Tasmania. We think that there is much more that can be done here. And one of the things I’ll be doing while I’m here is once again talking to the sector – not just tonight but tomorrow morning as well.

WIRSU: Anthony Albanese as I’m sure you know there’s a real tension in Tasmania at the moment between expanding tourism visitation and development and on the other side environmental protection. What is your priority when it comes to tourism in the state, development or environmental protection?

ALBANESE: Look I don’t think it is a matter of either-or. I think that good development for example, there was some opposition to the Three Capes Track investment, because it was providing budget accommodation as part of that walk. But it’s now world renowned. It’s been very positive, that investment and I don’t think anyone is saying that the environment has been damaged. We need to make sure that what’s special for Tasmania, its natural environment, is protected and that any tourism proposals are sustainable, but we also need at the same time to make sure that jobs and economic activity come to Tasmania.

WIRSU: It’s 5:17, you’re hearing from the Federal Shadow Minister for Tourism Anthony Albanese. Do you have any specific policy in mind to get people out of the major cities into regional areas in Tasmania?

ALBANESE: Absolutely. One of the things that the Quality Tourism Framework is about, really, is helping not the big players in Hobart and Launceston, it’s about helping your smaller operators. If you look at the walks that are here in Tasmania, if you look at the destinations like Pumphouse Point is a great example of restoration of an old facility, at Lake St Clair there, that is quite an extraordinary accommodation precinct, one that has a waiting list of months, not just weeks. And that’s an example of a small venture, but one that has been extremely successful in the regions and gets people out of the cities.

WIRSU: So what will you, if you’re elected to government, do to help generate projects like that?

ALBANESE: Well I think that’s what the Quality Tourism Framework is about. Helping up to thousands potentially. It could develop up to 10,000 high quality tourism experiences. That will be a very good thing.

WIRSU: Just finally before I let you go, there are also community concerns in Tasmania about the lack of infrastructure to handle the increasing numbers of tourists to the state. What’s your plan to make sure that infrastructure needs keep up with the demand from tourism?

ALBANESE: Well when we were last in government, of course, we doubled the roads budget. And we had significant investment here in the north and in the north-west and I think …

WIRSU: But looking into the future, what are your plans for the future?

ALBANESE: Well our plan is for further upgrades, we’ve committed to on the Bass Highway for example. And that is obviously the critical highway. We’ve put additional money on the table for the Midland Highway to connect the north and the south as well.

WIRSU: Anthony Albanese, thanks for your time this afternoon. And as we speak to you from the airport just a few minutes off the plane Anthony Albanese is the Federal Shadow Minister for Tourism, of course a Federal Election coming up every chance that Labor will become the government, hearing about what their priorities are for tourism in Tasmania should that be the case.


Feb 27, 2019

Transcript of Radio Interview – FIVEaa Adelaide, Two Tribes Segment – Wednesday, 27 February 2019

Subjects: George Pell, Catholic Church.

HOST: It’s a big good morning to Chris Pyne and Anthony Albanese.

ALBANESE: Good morning.

PYNE: Good morning Will. Good morning David. Good morning Anthony.

HOST: Guys we want to kick off by talking about Cardinal George Pell. Obviously the discussions we have been having on air today have been predicated on the fact that it is still before the courts. He has been found guilty, but he has the right to appeal and we as a result suspend a degree of judgement. But I just wanted to get some thoughts from both of you about the broader issue of the manner in which these cases have been handled by the Church. What are your views Chris, particularly as someone who as a graduate of St Ignatius, was brought up in the Catholic faith. Have you found this testing?

PYNE: Look it’s clearly testing. It’s a very depressing time for the Catholic Church and as Archbishop Coleridge, the Archbishop of Brisbane, speaking in the Vatican, said a couple of days ago, the Church only has itself to blame for decades of covering up abuse of sexual assault victims. So as a Catholic and a practising Catholic I do find it very disconcerting. Of course with Cardinal Pell he is appealing. But there must be a sense of justice for his victims and I’m glad that they have had justice. For him, he intends to appeal and if his appeal is successful as it was for Archbishop Wilson of course then we will be resetting this debate about him. But that won’t change the underlying issue that we have had in the Catholic Church now for too long which is the attempt to cover up what should have been referred to the police for police action.

HOST: What’s your view of this Albo? I’m not sure of what your religious background is. But obviously it was Labor in government that established the Royal Commission into Institutionalised Abuse. Do you think the church has changed its ways enough, not just the Catholic Church, but all churches?

ALBANESE: Quite clearly not and it is important to recognise. I certainly was raised as a Catholic. I went to a Catholic School. I indeed went to St Mary’s Cathedral High School in Sydney where one of my former principals is in jail for sexual abuse of minors and the fact is that the Catholic Church for a very, very long time just turned a blind eye to this and it’s got to accept responsibility for it. The issues that were there while I was at school, I’ve talked to my fellow students about it in recent times. It’s almost as if people were just aware of, you know, don’t find yourself alone with person X. And you know it’s quite shocking. I know George Pell. He is someone who I have had a friendly relationship with over the years and it’s very shocking.

But the thoughts have to go with the victims here. This ruined people’s lives, so many. I remember the Cabinet discussion. Of course the 30-year rule still applies so I can’t talk about all the detail, but what I certainly can say is that we really wrestled with it. It wasn’t something that was a five-minute, one-meeting discussion and in the end we came down to making I think what was seen at the time as a courageous decision and Julia Gillard I think deserves incredible praise. It was a very gutsy call for her to make particularly I think in the context of she doesn’t come from a religious background and was attacked for that. But it was the right thing to do and it isn’t of course just the Catholic Church. It was all of the churches plus institutions like the Boy Scouts where people were abused. Let’s just hope that the openness that is now out here of these crimes, and they are crimes, is some comfort, just a little bit, to the victims.

HOST: A constant theme that has come up from our listeners today guys regarding the Catholic Church and the issues within has been its reluctance to take what they say are really significant steps to combat the systemic nature of this and they point to a couple of things that are sacred Catholic traditions like the confessional seal, like celibacy for priests. Would you, given your backgrounds, and I put this question to both of you starting with you Chris Pyne, would you be happy to see changes on those fronts or something similar to that as a sign that the Church is willing to do whatever it takes to combat this scourge?

PYNE: Well I think one needs to tread very carefully. For example the Church has made tremendous reforms in recent years. There have been startlingly good examples of segments of the Church understanding their responsibility. I am proud as a Jesuit-trained student that the head of the Jesuits in Australia, when asked if there were any cases involving the Jesuits over the last 30 years whether they would fight compensation, and he said they would sell every building that they owned in Australia to pay whatever compensation was required because they weren’t in the business of owning real estate; they were in the business of saving souls, and I was gladdened by that response. It’s not all doom and gloom and there has been a lot of reform in the Catholic Church.

In terms of celibacy, it’s easy to say well, if the priests were allowed to marry, things would be different. But that completely ignores the fact that the Royal Commission into Institutional Child Sexual Abuse found that there was child sexual abuse across all the institutions and churches, whether it was the Jehovah Witnesses, the Jewish faith, the Anglican Church, the Salvation Army. So you can’t blame celibacy and say that was the problem. In fact the experts in this area, and I am not an expert in this area I hasten to add, say it wasn’t an issue of sexuality so much as an issue of power – the power that priests and others in institutions felt that they had and that there was no accountability.Now  I think that has changed and is changing. But what we are seeing at the moment is the Church, not just the Catholic Church, but all the institutions who have been guilty of this, having to face up to their pasts. But let’s hope that facing up to their pasts means that in the future, in the future, we won’t have these issues again.

HOST: Albo, what do you say about these calls for what would represent more dramatic reforms in the church?

ALBANESE: I think the Church has to have a very long hard look at itself – the way that it is organised, including the issue of celibacy. Let’s be clear; it hasn’t always been the case and you know there are issues with regard to property rights that come if people are married and have children and there is a range of economic drivers of these issues as well. But it just seems to me that the Church does need to modernise. It has in many ways of course since Vatican II and in a range of ways particularly under Pope Francis, who I think is quite an extraordinary advocate of social justice and has moved the Church forward substantially in the short time in which he has been the Pontiff.

But I think that they really do need to look at their institutional structures. I do not think it is a normal situation for people to be celibate for life. That is my view and you know the Church does need to evolve, just as so many people in the Church for example, have accepted, certainly the majority of Catholics in my local area of Marrickville I think supported marriage equality for example; that they recognised that the Church’s teachings can’t be the same today as they were 2000 years ago.

HOST: Well we normally busy ourselves with matters of State rather than matters of Church in this segment, but we thought we would get some good candid insights from both of you, particularly being from the Catholic tradition into what is the biggest story in the Church in the world today. So we will resume the hostilities next week.


ALBANESE: I’ve got to say though that I think both Christopher and myself, like so many of your listeners right now, are struggling with all this. It is a complex issue. I certainly don’t pretend to have all the answers to it, but I am very glad and it is important that it did move to a bipartisan position of having the Royal Commission and it’s a good thing that that happened.

HOST: Thank you for that guys.

Feb 27, 2019

Transcript of Radio Interview – 2HD Newcastle, Richard and Kim Program – Wednesday, 27 February 2019

Subjects: Singleton Bypass, High Speed Rail, Rabbitohs.

KIM BAUER: Anthony Albanese joins us now. Good morning.

ANTHONY ALBANESE: Good morning Kim.

KIM: Will you be going to buy your tickets for Hugh Jackman? Are you that sort of guy?

ALBANESE: I have heard that he is absolutely amazing live. He’s got rave reviews overseas and it is good that he is bringing it to Australia.

RICHARD KING: Well your government will be getting, if you are elected in May, getting rave reviews certainly for the announcement you are about to make officially today. Singleton Bypass seems to be the forgotten one. The New South Wales Government has committed funding for the Muswellbrook Bypass, but Singleton  – we get calls every morning because of particularly people heading up to the mines to work etc. I think it is 26,000 vehicles, about 4000 trucks every day along George Street. A bypass long overdue Anthony?

ALBANESE: Absolutely. Muswellbrook Bypass is very much needed and both Labor and the Coalition – whoever wins the New South Wales election has committed to that. That’s a good thing at the state level. But there is a little something in between which is Singleton. It has been left out and Singleton Bypass is dearly needed. We know it is one of the region’s worst traffic choke points. Every morning and every afternoon it’s a nightmare. And it’s not just the workers travelling to the mines and the through traffic in terms of passenger vehicles of course; there’s also substantial numbers of heavy vehicles that make this even more needed. So I think that following on from the work that we did last time round, with the fantastic Hunter Expressway – we put $1.5 billion into that last time I was Infrastructure Minister – this is something which has been campaigned for with great vigour by Joel Fitzgibbon and it will be a great day today when the announcement is made.

KIM: Construction due to start, should this go ahead, in 2022. Estimated to take three or four years. Is that realistic? Can it be done in that time?

ALBANESE: Yes it can be. The key is to get all the planning work done properly. If you get that done properly then you can minimise the construction time. There has been a lot more advanced work done on planning for Muswellbrook but for Singleton the planning work hasn’t really been done. Michael Daley and New South Wales Labor have committed to getting on with that if they are elected. I would like to see the construction period brought forward quite frankly but we are being very realistic and modest in what we are promoting and saying can be done  because it is always better I think to under-promise and over-deliver.

RICHARD: Hear! Hear!

ALBANESE: But we want this to happen and I know that the people not just of Singleton of course, but of the entire region, want it to happen.

RICHARD: Definitely. We’ve had an email from one of our listeners. “Ask Albo if he is still on about very fast trains and if there is anything he can do to get a non-slow one between Sydney and Newcastle?’’

ALBANESE: I certainly am. It is appalling that it takes longer today to travel by rail to Newcastle from Sydney and the other way around than it did 50 years ago unfortunately. But the truth is the terrain is difficult which is why, in my view, we should bite the bullet and go for a High Speed Rail connection not just through to Sydney but right through to Melbourne and then north to Brisbane. The route that would make the most sense is that corridor between Melbourne and Newcastle. It would be a real game changer. It is expensive, but nation-building requires vision. We have done the study. We did that last time we were in Government. We were ready to create a High Speed Rail Authority. I’ve still got legislation before the Parliament and I know that certainly Sharon Claydon and Pat Conroy and all of the MPs in the Hunter are very, very keen on it, as they are indeed on the Central Coast. There’d be a stop on the Coast and then straight through to Sydney.

KIM: Well it’s a dream. Hopefully it happens and hopefully they are built in Australia. But before you go Anthony, I know you are a big Rabbitohs fan, a life member. How will they go under Bennett this year?

ALBANESE: They are very confident. But I always think we are going to win the comp every February.

RICHARD: (Laughs) Yes.

ALBANESE: I thought that during the 43-year drought between drinks from 1971 to 2014. So I am very confident at this stage. But I do note that we signed Ethan Lowe yesterday which gives us I think a really powerful back row. Ethan is going to be playing at second row this year, and we’ve got Johnny Sutton of course and I think it is a very, very good team. Wayne Bennett is a very experienced coach of course –  a seven-times premiership winner. So hopefully he can bag us an eighth.

RICHARD: Good luck. But not when you play the Knights.

ALBANESE: Indeed. It’s always a really good game though. I was at the stadium there to watch a Knights-Souths game with Joel Fitzgibbon a couple of years ago and I love the way that the people of Newcastle embrace rugby league. It’s fantastic, your loyalty. I cheer for the Knights except when they are playing the Cardinal and Myrtle.

RICHARD: Good on you. Thanks you very much for your time. Have a good day.



Feb 25, 2019

Transcript of Doorstop – Mandurah, Western Australia – Monday, 25 February 2019

Subjects: Mandurah Train Station car park project, Christian Porter’s bus, public transport.

ANTHONY ALBANESE: This is a very exciting announcement. I visited here during the Canning by-election – this station. I have been back to Mandurah three times in the last 12 months and what is very clear is that commuter car parking is at a point whereby it is broken. It needs new infrastructure and that is why our commitment of $16 million, to be supported by the State Government, is about us supporting people’s capacity to get on to public transport and it is so important.

This line is a great legacy of course of a previous State Labor Government. Labor Governments do public transport. The Coalition get dragged kicking and screaming to do anything on public transport and this is important here in Perth. The whole METRONET project is the centrepiece of infrastructure investment here in Perth, the capital of WA, and it is great to be back here again.

MELLISA TEEDE: It is so important. This train station is a major hub for a very large part of the Canning area. So people from Preston Beach, people from Waroona will be able to come here and know that they have a good chance of getting a car park. But I’d also like to say that this will be another major State Labor project and that I will make sure that, if we win government and we get this station built, that we have apprentices actually employed in the construction of this.

REPORTER: Why is it so important that you encourage people to use public transport?

TEEDE: We all see the congestion on this freeway and it is so important that we encourage people to take public transport to be able to move about (inaudible) … you know support our young people when they heading off to work and uni and as I said particularly the outer regions as well, knowing they can come in here to Mandurah and catch a train.

REPORTER: And just on transport in the Peel Region, have you identified any need up in Lakelands and will there be an announcement on the Lakelands train station?

ALBANESE: Well what we are doing is we are working our way through it one at a time and we will be making further announcements during the campaign across Perth and indeed across WA about infrastructure.

TEEDE: I am talking to people in Lakelands and definitely there is strong desire from sections of that community to have a station there. I have to say equally there are some people that say that as long as we have adequate parking here and Mandurah and I understand the State Government is going to be looking at Karnup that will take the pressure, to give them access. I am still listening to what the people are saying and take on board and have those conversations with David as my State counterpart.

ALBANESE: Can I also say that this is an example of Labor’s priorities. Labor’s priorities are practical. We are about putting more investment into schools, more investment into TAFE and universities, more investment into health care. When it comes to transport we are about improving the road network but we are also about boosting public transport and that stands in stark contrast to the current Federal Government.

We have Christian Porter today exposed as getting essentially a free bus from someone who just a week ago, a former state MP, was appointed to the Administrative Appeals Tribunal as a part of a very politicised list just last Thursday. He calls it the Porter Transporter. I think we will be calling it the Porter Rorter because it just continues on and it follows on of course from the Mathias Cormann scandal, whereby he doesn’t seem to notice that someone else pays $3000 of airfares. It follows on from the fact that we have Tim Wilson here today chairing a Parliamentary Committee when one of his relatives is responsible for promoting these Parliamentary Committee meetings around the country. This really is a Government that is unravelling and isn’t focused on practical issues like the one that we’re dealing with here today.

REPORTER: Yep. And just back to the car park, what’s the consultation been to establish that need? How do you know that (inaudible) are needed?

DAVID TEMPLEMAN, LABOR MLA FOR MANDURAH: The sign says it all. The sign says it all: car park full. Look, let’s just be very clear. State Labor and Federal Labor are together on this. We recognise very, very clearly that we need to keep on investing in public transport. We’ve got a track record. I can remember very, very clearly when the Liberal Party argued against the railway line to Mandurah. It was outrageous, but the people of Mandurah saw through that pathetic argument and voted with their feet. Now we see that this railway line to Mandurah, allowing people to connect from other parts of the region here – they voted with their feet.

Now what we need to do is invest more money so that more people can have access to this very, very successful railway line, which of course is part of the State Government’s METRONET Program. The METRONET Program is a comprehensive program about linking people through the Perth Metropolitan area and down through to here, and of course through to Byford in the eastern part of Canning, so that they can get to good quality jobs, so that they can get to good quality education, so that they can actually go and visit their families and friends.

This line is very successful for seniors. A lot of people travel up and down this line to see their families, and also to seek appointments in Perth. That’s brilliant. We want more people on trains, less in cars. Go on the freeway up to Perth on a weekday, or any day, and people know about the congestion. But this is an absolutely magnificent commitment by Anthony, and Mellisa, who’s advocated so strongly for this, and now matching that commitment, a Shorten Labor Government is going to ensure that this happens.

REPORTER: And sorry Robyn, obviously your constituents can’t walk to the train – how good is this to have extra parking?

ROBYN CLARKE, LABOR MLA FOR MURRAY-WELLINGTON: It’s going to be great, because as you know in my electorate we’ve got one bus service from Pinjarra to Mandurah, but for the rest of the electorate they have to drive and this is their only car park really that they can come to, to have access to the train line and to get up to Perth. A lot of them are retirees, they need medical appointments at the hospitals, and when they arrive here at nine, ten o’clock in the morning to try and get parking there’s just nothing available. So this is a great announcement from Federal Labor. What David reiterated – it’s been a Labor Government that has been the forefront of rail infrastructure and I’m so proud because I can go back to my electorate and say that we are building a multi-storey car park and there’ll be extra parking now available to the constituents of Murray-Wellington.

REPORTER: I know this is early days and you don’t know exactly what it’s going to look like, but is there going to be some security elements in there?

TEMPLEMAN: Look, CCTV security is very important. We’ve got to make sure people get on and off their train system safely. This already has of course a fairly comprehensive CCTV but obviously with a new multi-storey car park those will be very active considerations. Let me just underpin this – only the Labor Party has a track record in delivery of quality public transport in this state. We were the party that electrified the system throughout Perth. We were the party that extended the rail both north and south. We’ve got the METRONET plan of course, which connects circular connectors east and west, and of course we have a commitment that is there to be seen – stark contrast to the Liberals which of course closed the Fremantle line in the past and never had their heart in actually delivering quality public transport. We have got a track record. With Mellisa as our member for Canning, and with Anthony as our Federal Transport and Infrastructure Minister, this project’s going to be delivered.



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