Transcripts
Monday, 28th April 2025
AMANDA KELLER, HOST: Well, we're five days out from the election. We had Peter Dutton on earlier to give his thoughts ahead of Saturday's election and now it's time to hear from the Prime Minister himself, Anthony Albanese. Good morning.
ANTHONY ALBANESE, PRIME MINISTER: Good morning. Good to be with you.
BRENDAN JONES, HOST: Great to talk to you again.
KELLER: The countdown is on. The polls are in your favour. You appear to have won the debate last night, but a week is a long time in politics. How nervous are you for this upcoming week?
PRIME MINISTER: Well, there's a lot at stake over the next week. What's at stake is whether students will get 20 per cent off their debt, whether Australians get a tax cut or, under Peter Dutton, they actually get an increase in their income taxes, every single taxpayer. Whether first home buyers will get access to a five per cent deposit is important. Whether we make more things here in Australia, whether we continue to act on climate change and whether we continue to build positive relationships in the world, all of that is at stake. But what is front and centre after our announcement yesterday about Medicare 1800, where people will be able to ring and get access to health advice 24 hours a day, on top of our Urgent Care Clinics and our greater access for bulk billing – we know that’s on one side of the equation, on the other side, Peter Dutton last night, in response to saying that he wanted to abolish bulk billing, which he did when he was Health Minister, said that he wanted to make primary care sustainable. Well, he's belled the cat that he doesn't think it's sustainable to get a free trip to the doctor, which was his view then, it clearly is still his view and that is an enormous setback for the country if that occurs.
JONES: We asked Peter Dutton just before about how he felt that the debate went. And I know that you won it according to Channel 7, at the end of the debate, did you feel, oh is there something I could have done different?
PRIME MINISTER: Look, I have seen Peter Dutton's comments and I find it extraordinary, that there were 60 voters chosen independently by an agency and they voted double, two to one in favour of myself. And I was very grateful for that outcome. And Peter Dutton blamed the voters, the 60 people who were in that room listening to the debate. I think people know that we need, at a time of uncertainty in the global economy, we need certainty going forward, and the truth is that Peter Dutton has had a number of positions on issues like everything from EVs and tax cuts through to working from home during the four weeks of a campaign. If you can't keep your policy position solid for four weeks, what hope would you have –
KELLER: Well we asked him about that –
PRIME MINISTER: In keeping them solid for three years?
JONES: We did, we did ask him. I must, it's the first time we've ever had him on our show and he seemed to handle himself quite well. And I think as well at this time of the election – and I put this analogy to Peter Dutton – it's a bit like the end of the Blues Brothers. You know the movie the Blues Brothers?
PRIME MINISTER: I sure do.
JONES: You know when the car falls to bits.
PRIME MINISTER: Yes, indeed.
JONES: I think that's like how you guys are feeling. So, we've got, and it seems that everyone else is scoring you guys on how you went in your various debates and that. So, why should we be any different. So, we've got a game for you. It's called: Don't Make It Political.
VOICEOVER: It's time to play: Don't Make It Political.
JONES: Just for your information, Prime Minister, Peter Dutton got four out of five in this, three out of four I should say.
KELLER: Three out of four. When we say political, what we mean is we, no policy speak, no campaign slogans. We'd like you to speak from the heart in one sentence or less, one word, if you'd like. Just a couple of words that we throw at you and see how you go. You happy to play?
PRIME MINISTER: Yeah, absolutely.
JONES: Okay, let's go. Kyle Sandilands.
PRIME MINISTER: Interesting character.
KELLER: What wedding present did you give him?
PRIME MINISTER: I forget. I don't know what it was.
KELLER: A toaster.
JONES: I hope it wasn't a bread maker. He's trying to cut down on the carbs.
PRIME MINISTER: I did get him something.
KELLER: All right, number two here –
PRIME MINISTER: It was actually a fantastic wedding, by the way.
KELLER: Wow.
JONES: And he didn't invite us, and I’ve known him since we were 20 –
PRIME MINISTER: I got to sit next to his mum, who is lovely, from Bribie Island.
KELLER: All right, we'll let people judge you on how you feel about that. Question number two, negative gearing.
PRIME MINISTER: Stays.
JONES: Katy Perry in space.
PRIME MINISTER: Oh, that was weird. I love Katy Perry, but why did she go into space? I mean, really.
KELLER: Is that your next trip?
PRIME MINISTER: No, no, I'll stick to travelling around this vast continent of ours at the moment.
KELLER: All right, well done. How about holiday homes? How do you feel about those?
PRIME MINISTER: Oh, good if people can have them.
KELLER: Well, I would like to visit yours as well. We'll bring Sandilands’ mum.
JONES: We're bringing the bread maker. Anthony Albanese, you've done very well. Thank you for joining us. Good luck with the election on Saturday. Make sure you don't eat a sausage in a strange way or run strangely like Bill Shorten.
PRIME MINISTER: I'll do my best, but can I give a shout out to Amanda. I actually, believe it or not saw the article yesterday, I don't have time to read a lot of articles and I feel exactly the same way, I reckon as you get older you can feel happier and just comfortable with yourself going forward and I think it was a really lovely article.
KELLER: Oh thank you, yes, I was speaking about the nature of getting older and you see the universality of all of us and you think: well I'm not jealous of other people I'm just hoping for a nice dismount somewhere along the line.
PRIME MINISTER: Just be who you are and that's what I'm, that's what I'm trying to be this campaign too, for better or worse I am who I am and I hope that comes through.
KELLER: Well thank you and good luck on the weekend and I hope you get to choose your dismount when the moment comes as well.
PRIME MINISTER: Thank you very much, see you team.
JONES: Thank you, our Prime Minister Anthony Albanese there.
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