Apr 23, 2018

Transcript of Radio Interview – 2CC Canberra – Drive Program – Friday, 20 April 2018

FRIDAY, 20 APRIL, 2018

Subjects: Record Store Day, Barnaby Joyce, Banking Royal Commission.

RICHARD PERNO: Tomorrow is Record Store Day. It’s time to pull out the electronic devices from your ears, stop downloading from the old net and go into a  record shop and buy a 12 inch slab of vinyl, which is exactly what Anthony Albanese will do tomorrow. Isn’t it Albo? You will be buying records tomorrow?

ANTHONY ALBANESE: It is indeed. I’m heading into my local record store tomorrow, which is RPM in Marrickville Road. It stands for Records, Posters and Memorabilia. But there’s about 150 record stores right around Australia that will be participating tomorrow in Record Store Day.

PERNO: Do you remember the first piece of vinyl you bought Albo?

ALBANESE:  Yes it was Honky Chateau by Elton John.

PERNO: Oh no.

ALBANESE: I think it is his second or third album and I’ve still got it.

PERNO: Have you?

ALBANESE:  I’ve still got it. The second album I bought was Band on the Run by Paul McCartney and Wings.

PERNO: Have you still got that Anthony?

ALBANESE:  I’ve still got it. A bit later on when I finally got a decent stereo, I remember buying a three-in-one, you know, that had the tape deck, the record player and the radio …

PERNO: What brand was it? What brand?

ALBANESE: It was a Philips brand three-in-one and I bought it on lay-by from Grace Brothers where I worked on Thursday night and Saturday morning and paid it off. I got Led Zeppelin’s Presence Album was the first album I got which must have driven my poor mother crazy.

PERNO: Up the wall. Did you have a set of headphones? Could you afford a set of headphones.

ALBANESE:  No, no I didn’t have headphones. You had to listen to it out loud. I had it out on the back veranda of our little place in Camperdown.

PERNO: Did you? And Anthony Albanese, did you sit next to it and play DJs? Did you pretend you were a disc jockey?

ALBANESE: No, I never did that. That has come much later in life. That came after.  I hosted Rage …

PERNO: Did you host Rage?

ALBANESE:  Yes, when I was Deputy Prime Minister and arising out of that has been a few charity gigs being a pretend DJ.


ALBANESE: But essentially playing music that I like and in a couple of months I have something coming up, in June, for a local women’s refuge fundraiser.

PERNO: All right.

ALBANESE:  In my electorate.

PERNO: What are you doing there Anthony Albanese? Are you going to play records or something are you?

ALBANESE:  I am going to be playing records there. I have already done a playlist.

PERNO: Have you really?

ALBANESE:  An all-female play list.

PERNO: Oh, because of the ladies.


PERNO: If you were on a desert island Anthony Albanese, and you had to play a record – if they had power, let’s pretend everything is in a perfect world – what would you play over and over again until you got sick of it.

ALBANESE: Probably, over the years I think probably my favourite record is Sound Affects by The Jam.

PERNO: Is that right?

ALBANESE:  But I have lots of favourite albums. I did a little thing on Instagram a while back of my favourite ten albums and of course that was my favourite ten albums of that particular day because I, like lots of people, change when you think about things and one of the great things about going into a record store, and people will be doing that all over Australia tomorrow, there will be special sales, new releases, is that you can find music that you mightn’t even know about or havn’te played for a long time.

PERNO: That’s right.

ALBANESE:  There’s something about touching and feeling a record, looking at the sleeve, looking at the artwork, listening to the tracks in the order in which the artist wanted them to be heard and something special about that that I don’t think you can get from digital music down loads.

PERNO: No, that’s right, you can’t. And Albo, the demise of the local record shop is pretty sad too. I don’t know whether … there was a shop in George Street Albo called Palings that they used to flock to.

ALBANESE:  Indeed.

PERNO: Do you remember that? I think it was downstairs.


PERNO: Millions of vinyl and singles. Did you ever buy a single?

ALBANESE:  I bought a lot of singles. I have mainly bought albums, but I do have a lot of singles. There are record stores. We did a launch for Record Store Day just a few weeks ago at Red Eye Records – it has been in York Street now for a long time. It used to be down near Wynyard and that was there specialising I guess in more sort of independent rock music.


ALBANESE: It has a bit of everything, but I used to go into Phantom Records in Pitt Street too.

PERNO: Phantom.

ALBANESE:  They had their own label of bands like the Sunnyboys and Le Hoodoo Gurus, as they were called, and the Cockroaches. Lots of bands got their start there.

PERNO: Have you been into a record shop lately?

ALBANESE:  Yes. I went into RPM this week to do a bit of a promo for my local paper and I also, if I am in the city, will drop into Red Eye Records as well. I think that there is something special about a record store and one of the things about independent record stores is … there is a fantastic one in Weston there in Canberra run by Frog.

PERNO: Yes, that’s right.

ALBANESE:  And the people don’t own record stores because they are going to make a lot of money. The truth is they won’t. But they are people who are obsessed about music, who love their craft and love their business and who will put you on to different sorts of music. They might say: Have you listened to jazz out of a particular area or have you listened to some West Coast music from the US, or listened to some African music or whatever.


ALBANESE:  But they are passionate about their work and what they do. They employ local people, they tend to support local Australian music as well and that is why I think International Record Store Day, which will be celebrated right around the world tomorrow, is a really good thing. It’s a good reminder. Interestingly last year was the first year this century that vinyl sales have gone up. And CD sales as well. So what that says to me is that people, you know, with the pace of the world these days, people do want a bit of a slowdown.


ALBANESE:  And to press the pause button a bit, to be able to go in and have a look at their local record store. Frog is actually giving some of the donations to the local RSPCA branch. There’s lots of record stores will be doing that tomorrow, giving some of their contributions to support local charities. Some of them have local bands that are playing. They have specials. There are new releases including a new David Bowie live release. I think it is from the 70s, the concert that they have made into a limited release for tomorrow. But lots of special things happening.

PERNO: Yes there are. Can I give you a piece of advice Anthony?

ALBANESE:  Oh certainly. As long as I don’t have to take it.

PERNO: No, you don’t have to take it. When you get rid of this stupid career in politics, open Anthony’s Rock and Roll Shop or Record Shop.

ALBANESE:  It would be a fun thing to do. But it is hard work. They all work very hard.

PERNO: Froggy always looks like he could do with a week off. But it is great to be in it. As you rightly point out, all this sort of electronic gadgetry has seen the demise of a lot of the shops but vinyl, as you mentioned also Albo, is making that huge  comeback which is pretty good as well. So hang on to your vinyl. Who knows, in future years radio stations might bring back the turntables they have taken away.

ALBANESE: They may well.

PERNO: You never know.

ALBANESE:  Well there is a different sound that vinyl produces.

PERNO: Yes I like all the crackles in it and all the scratches. They are the good things. Two things before I let you go –  Barnaby Joyce is a dad for the fifth time. What would you say to Barnaby Joyce?

ALBANESE:  Congratulations, like I would say to any new father.

PERNO: Yes he’s got a son, so she has given him a boy.

ALBANESE:  Well, that’s equally as good as having a girl.

PERNO: Yes and having a record shop. And finally on the serious side of things Albo, this banking Royal Commission has certainly regurgitated horror stories. The customers are being ripped off. There is going to be some law in place. Do you reckon it will happen that the Government will institute 10-years behind jail?

ALBANESE: Well who knows what they will do to hide their embarrassment over the fact that they resisted the Royal Commission. Remember? Twenty times we tried to put in through the Parliament. They said it was a waste of time. It was s stunt. It was reckless. Guess what? A little bit of fresh air and a little bit of transparency has exposed all sorts of rorts and has exposed people being ripped off. It’s a good thing. It is always good to have evidence to then make policy on the basis of that evidence. Thank goodness we did have a Royal Commission and we haven’t heard from a lot of the victims yet. That is to come.

PERNO: It’s a horror story. Now if it happens to be into Parliament as a piece of paper that you have to vote on, will you say yes, ten years behind jail, big fines?

ALBANESE: We will have a look at any legislation that is there but we have tried to have a strengthening of protections for people from financial services and we have been resisted …


ALBANESE:  .. in recent times so hopefully the Government will realise the error of their ways and stop essentially what has been a bit of a protection racket for these people.

PERNO: Yes, and horror stories coming up. Anthony Albanese, member for Grayndler and future record store owner, great to catch up with you Albo. It has been a couple of years. Don’t be a stranger. Let’s see what happens tomorrow. Have a good Record Store Day tomorrow.

ALBANESE:  Thanks for having us.


FRIDAY, 20 APRIL, 2018